Khaab Khayaal Saraab

Thursday, January 22, 2004

Irshad Manji  

http://www.theconnection.org/shows/2004/01/20040122_b_main.asp

Refusenik...

can we bear to have one finger pointed a ourselves...

create conversations where none existed before

a personal clash of civilizations...

wake up thanking Allah that i live in all this freedom...

since it comes at 3.0, it is perfect...[not even address this ...]

when abuses happen in the name of our religion we don't know how to respond... [again western muslim...am

scare me]

[kill an entire j tribe]

honour killing in pakistan with the name of God dripping from their lips; sectarian killing

[critique of Western Muslims's situation...a 2nd Gen...am scare me]

Not easy to have open discussion

Sheema Khan calls out inaccuracies: the dhimmi status

names: Shireen Ebadi;

Further comments on 05/07/04:

I find critiques like Manji's more reactive than constructive. Especially the sound and fury around them. While her...shall we say, reactionary critique...might sound comforting to the Western or Western-Inspired ear, IMHO, they are almost designed not to make inroads in terms of actually getting thru to the audience that *can* make a difference; namely the non-obscurantist, non-fundamentalist Muslim who does believe that the Qur'an is the word of Allah.

Other comments:

http://www.pbs.org/now/society/manji.htmlNotes listening to an interview of Irshad Manji:

To give her credit, a better place to her articulate her views is the interview [audio] on The Connection (NPR talk show in the Boston area):

http://www.theconnection.org/shows/2004/01/20040122_b_main.asp

and http://www.wnyc.org/shows/lopate/episodes/07162004

Personally I believe that comparing the Qur'an to the Bible is ill-informed/naive--or an over-eagerness to conform to a liberal frame of thought. If one does want to get into detailed critique, the New Testament in partcular--being a report of what Jesus and his followers did--are closer to the Hadith in content than the Qur'an, which is a slightly different form. It is sad to see a person that seems to sincerely want to bring reform in Islamic society make such generalisations.

She seems to be conflicted on whether her real issue is that the "Kuran" is imperfect or that it needs a re-interpretation in the light of the 21st Century. If the latter is the case, I say Amen, Sister! but in the former case, I am just sad that she while that might be a valid position for her and most other liberals on the planet, it is a a red rag to a bull more it is as a place to start a reformation of Islamic practice and thought.

On Fri, 7 May 2004 14:33:10 GMT, Umair Muhajir wrote:
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> http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/books/interviews/story.jsp?story=518139
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> THE INDEPENDENT
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> Irshad Manji: Islam's marked woman
> Irshad Manji is a lesbian Muslim who says her religion is stuck in the Middle Ages. The outspoken author tells Johann Hari how she became a target for assassination
> 05 May 2004

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http://www.pbs.org/now/society/manji.html she says the people she is complaining about are taking it closer and closer to the founding moment