Khaab Khayaal Saraab

Thursday, January 22, 2004

Irshad Manji  



can we bear to have one finger pointed a ourselves...

create conversations where none existed before

a personal clash of civilizations...

wake up thanking Allah that i live in all this freedom...

since it comes at 3.0, it is perfect...[not even address this ...]

when abuses happen in the name of our religion we don't know how to respond... [again western muslim...am

scare me]

[kill an entire j tribe]

honour killing in pakistan with the name of God dripping from their lips; sectarian killing

[critique of Western Muslims's situation...a 2nd Gen...am scare me]

Not easy to have open discussion

Sheema Khan calls out inaccuracies: the dhimmi status

names: Shireen Ebadi;

Further comments on 05/07/04:

I find critiques like Manji's more reactive than constructive. Especially the sound and fury around them. While her...shall we say, reactionary critique...might sound comforting to the Western or Western-Inspired ear, IMHO, they are almost designed not to make inroads in terms of actually getting thru to the audience that *can* make a difference; namely the non-obscurantist, non-fundamentalist Muslim who does believe that the Qur'an is the word of Allah.

Other comments:

http://www.pbs.org/now/society/manji.htmlNotes listening to an interview of Irshad Manji:
  • To give her credit, a better place to her articulate her views is the interview [audio] on The Connection (NPR talk show in the Boston area):


    and http://www.wnyc.org/shows/lopate/episodes/07162004

  • Personally I believe that comparing the Qur'an to the Bible is ill-informed/naive--or an over-eagerness to conform to a liberal frame of thought. If one does want to get into detailed critique, the New Testament in partcular--being a report of what Jesus and his followers did--are closer to the Hadith in content than the Qur'an, which is a slightly different form. It is sad to see a person that seems to sincerely want to bring reform in Islamic society make such generalisations.

  • She seems to be conflicted on whether her real issue is that the "Kuran" is imperfect or that it needs a re-interpretation in the light of the 21st Century. If the latter is the case, I say Amen, Sister! but in the former case, I am just sad that she while that might be a valid position for her and most other liberals on the planet, it is a a red rag to a bull more it is as a place to start a reformation of Islamic practice and thought.

    On Fri, 7 May 2004 14:33:10 GMT, Umair Muhajir wrote:
    > http://enjoyment.independent.co.uk/books/interviews/story.jsp?story=518139
    > Irshad Manji: Islam's marked woman
    > Irshad Manji is a lesbian Muslim who says her religion is stuck in the Middle Ages. The outspoken author tells Johann Hari how she became a target for assassination
    > 05 May 2004

    [Text snipped to save space--see link above]

  • http://www.pbs.org/now/society/manji.html she says the people she is complaining about are taking it closer and closer to the founding moment